Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Author Review - Gale vs. Peeta

Heidi R Kling, Sea, is here to tackle a much-heated debate : Team Gale or Team Peeta? (*cough* I think you know which one I'm on. But, really, if you can make more of an impact in a couple pages than Peeta does in two books, you've got somethin' goin' on!) So, without any more disturbances from me, here is Heidi:

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I just finished the book Hunger Games. I know. It's almost 2010 and I'm about the last avid YA reader to complete that task. I've been afraid to read it because of the content. Kids killing other kids on National TV in the not-so-distant future? Makes my stomach churn just thinking about it. But I'm so glad I took the plunge. Suzanne Collins has crafted about as perfect a novel as you can get. And when a bestseller is also well-written and complex AND thoughtful? It has my vote. But I digress. The topic here is Peeta VS. Gale. Which one do I prefer and/or which boy is better for Katniss--our complicated hero of the Games. My fellow Twitterers seem to be VERY opinionated about this topic. Visions of a certain sparkly vampire and hairy nemesis bounce in my head--but this contest seems different.

More emotional some how.

Bella doesn't love Edward because they've partnered up in a ridiculous and violent battle together, it's more like a school-girl crush. (Sorry, Twilighters, in the beginning it is!) Katniss grows to love Peeta because they are partners in a vicious game. Because they have to trust each other. Because the 'other' is all they have.

Peeta is brave, incredibly loyal, sweet and smart. Katniss, in my opinion, is so hard on him because she believes he hasn't suffered back home the way she has. The way Gale may have. But he proves himself to her time and time again and I believe the feelings she has for him are as real as their experience in the arena. And just as scary--because she has spent years trying to cut herself off emotionally from anyone other than her little sister because of the pain involved in feeling. In loving. In trusting since her father died and her mother drifted off into her own world. Which is why, I believe, she never advanced her relationship with Gale past friendship. Hanging on to Gale as her 'ideal' of because he is safe. Because, like Katniss, he isn't able to express his feelings. Whereas Peeta knows exactly who he is. And owns it.

I think you are getting my message loud and clear. At the end of Hunger Games, this girl is 100% Team Peeta.

And the scene with the berries was beautiful and heartbreaking and I LOVED it.

Now, if Suzanne Collins would have had Gale pick Katniss up at the train station? If he had been leaning against the wall let's say. With a bow slung from his hip and a teary-proud grin on his face? And pulled her into a sexy, cowboy-hunter hug? And kissed her? And Peeta looked on longingly and did nothing? Then this blog post may have had a slightly altered ending. But that's not what the author chose. And that's not a choice I would have made either. Collins chose Peeta, as did Katniss, as do I.

Verdict: TEAM PEETA.
Now, onto Catching Fire! Do you think I will be swayed? No spoilers. :)

See below for other author/blogger opinions on the subject!
Thanks for reading.

----by Heidi R. Kling
http://heidirkling.com

Rachel Simon:
I usually fall for the bad boys. Jace from Cassandra Clare's book series, Macon from one of Sarah Dessen's novels, give me those boys over the nice ones ANY DAY. But for some reason, Peeta Mellark won my heart.

I think it was because it was soon after I had broken a boy's heart. And this boy easily could've been Peeta minus that his father was a writer, not a baker. But this boy was kind and tall and awkward-handsome looking--someone I tried fighting my feelings for. He liked the same books I did and played piano and was smart, all qualities I liked (especially the piano thing- I'm not musical at all!). He, in my eyes, was Peeta.

Because I had said no to this boy, I hoped Katniss wouldn't make the same mistake. Peeta was kind and perhaps not rugged handsome like Gale. Perhaps, he wasn't good at hunting like Gale. But everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. Peeta is the boy that is quiet, but always listening -- listening, listening, listening to the plans and ideas of others. He was patient with Katniss. He accepted that Katniss might not love him outside of their acting, and he knew that although that was heartbreaking, he could and possibly would get over it.

To me, Peeta is appealing because he is a quiet pillar of strength. Yes, he may not be Gale. But in all honesty, how much do we know about Gale? How much do we know about Peeta? Well, I'd say because Peeta's had more page time, we know a bit more about him. But I do not discount Gale. With Collins' series, you never know what will happen next and that does not just include the Games...

Adele Walsh:
I have been Team Gale from the moment we meet him in The Hunger Games and that seems pretty fitting. He's such a definite character, very black and white, very exact. He needed to be as his appearances in the novels have been very brief so he needed to make a solid impression. There was no doubt that he would look after his family when his father died, no doubt that he would look after Katniss' family in her absence, no doubt that there was any other girl for him but her. I love conviction in a guy and Gale has it in spades. He's also brave, cunning, loyal, roguish and a protector. He's also tall, dark and handsome. Despite all his strengths, he accepts and loves Katniss for who she is. He's all in. There's a passion within Gale that's fiery and all encompassing that's very enthralling. Yet for all that he's the unknown compared to the page heavy Peeta. And yet this works for him too. He's mysterious, he's unpredictable and Katniss can't shake him. They have four years of history with one another day to day compared to Peeta time in the games. In conclusion, I will quote Sandra Bullock's character in the movie Speed - "...relationships that start under intense circumstances, they never last." Preaching to the choir, sister!

Martha Flynn:
Okay, I'm team Peeta.

Yeah, yeah, I know he's a "pansy assed baker" (my friend's words) but he stepped up to the plate. Gale had his shot. He brooded around for god knows how long with his bow and arrow, the two of them like moody peas in the pod whining about how they can't have a life together because life's too short (thank you opposite-logic day) and it's only after he gets the jealousies that he can step up and make a move? I say BOO TO YOU GALE! (And mama loves you, you're just not for Katniss.)

RJ Anderson:
Peeta is a baker. Gale is a hunter. Peeta makes fancy cupcakes with flowers on them. Gale brings home meat for his starving family. Gale was gaming the system long before Peeta and Katniss got dragged into the Hunger Games -- not because he was forced to to save his own life but in order to provide for the needs of others. What was Peeta doing? Baking bread. For sale.

Peeta is a charming sweet guy who is crazy about Katniss, and I have nothing against him at all, I like him very much. But he's also, by and large, a pushover. Whereas Gale is a man, who has a long history of being friends and partners with Katniss in an equal way, not afraid to challenge her when she's wrong. She respects him.

Peeta is a boy. Gale is a man. And men trump boys every time.

Also I have a thing about long-time friends who realize they love each other. I think friendship of that sort is a very good strong foundation for a lasting romance. Whereas Peeta and Katniss were thrown together by adversity and it's very hard to know if the feelings that they have for each other in that desperate situation are going to endure when things change.

I want to see good things happen to Peeta, because he's a lovely boy. But I don't think Katniss is necessarily a good thing for him, however much he may want her. Nor do I see him having the attributes that would make her a good life partner, however much she may like him and not want to hurt him.

And "gormless" is a British term I've heard many times before, but to call Gale gormless would be a flat out contradiction of everything we've been told about him in the book. He may have any number of other flaws, but wimpy? I don't think so!
(This is in response to someone on twitter referring to Gale as "gormless"

Alyson Beecher:
Part of me feels that it the games had never happened she would have been with Gale and that when she returned I think she would have gotten back with him. In some ways I think they are a good match. I do think Peeta and her compliment each other and cuz of their experiences they share something. But I think more of the feeling is coming from Peeta and she feels more a sense of obligation. Not good to build a relationship on. So basically I am still cheering on Gale and maybe the third book will change my mind. Sometimes I think there won't be any Happy ending and shouldn't be and that she will lose them both.

YA Bliss:
Oh come on! Who would be Team Gale we don’t even know the guy! He wasn’t smart enough to make a move before the games. He just said goodbye and I’ll take care of you family and that’s it!

So when she comes back with someone else its painful for him!? WHATEVER!

Peeta gave her bread and got his butt kicked because of it when they were kids. He didn’t even know her well enough yet and he was already making sacrifices on her behalf. Don’t get me wrong I do think he’s obviously TOO GOOD sometimes and I’m more of a bad-boy fan. But who can resist such love? Plus, Katniss has only gotten “that feeling” with Peeta! Must suck being Team Gale knowing he obviously wont get picked!

Carla "loves sam":
Okay, so Team Gale is the only way to be. For one "Peeta" is just spelt all funny, and two, theres nothing worse than unrequited love, if Katniss didnt like him straightaway then just no. He may be blond baker, but that jut doesn't kick it for me.

Whereas Gale has been there from the beginning, he luvvvs Katniss already as she does him. Theres no point denying that they wont end up together, and if they dont I will seriously go ninja on Suzanne's editor for letting it be any other way. Peeta is just a giant snoozefest, come on!

66 comments:

  1. That was epic! I am torn, but I gotta say I am mostly Team Gale. Though I do agree with all the Team Peeta lovers arguments!
    RJ's was the ultimate argument ever! "Peeta is a boy. Gale is a man. And men trump boys every time." :)

    Thanks for this Chelsea, and all you authors! :)

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  2. Okay I'm amending my answer a little bit, Carla "loves sam" had the most epic answer. I would quote from it, but I would just quote the entire thing because its just so awesome! Thank you Carla! :)

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  3. The great debate! I'm Team Peeta yet still swoon whenever Gale shows up on the page. Glad not to be Katniss! Usually with these love triangles it's easy for me to pick which one I like better. Not this time. Curses!

    Thanks for sharing this. Absolutely love the debate!

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  4. Adele and RJ summed it up the best. Chelsea- thanks for working with Heidi on this. Heidi -thanks for including my thoughts. I'm still Team Gale but it will be interesting to see what Collins does in book 3.

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  5. Oh my god!!! I totally didnt know you was going to put my answer up here. I am being totally serious about the whole ninja thing, seriously. Team Gale woot woot!!

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  6. My husband just read HG and CF and he asked me why anyone would choose that whiny pretty boy Gale and I said I couldn't fathom it either. TEAM PEETA!

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  7. Hi :)
    I just finished reading Catching Fire and am SO looking forward to the third installment on Aug 24th. I was wondering if one or both may die...
    It's a dangerous world Peeta & Gale inhabit.
    Or does she have to choose at all? Can't she have both men?
    :)
    All the best,
    RKCharron

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  8. Wow...that's an epic summary...You all make great points and the best thing about these books is Collins makes it hard to choose because both boys are great choices...But alas, after the first two books, my heart remains with Peeta.

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  9. Glad you guys liked the post! I must say, after reading the first few chapters of Catching Fire last night, I'm STILL Team Peeta. The kissy scene in the forest was sort of weak and Katniss had no reaction to it.

    Perhaps Chelsea will invite us to do another debate when I've finished it?

    Thanks!

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  10. I think Adele sums Gale up perfectly and I suspect we'll see more of his strengths in the final installment of the series.

    ~Trish
    TEAM GALE ;)

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  11. Yes, Heidi! I'd love to hear your thoughts after finishing CF. :) I liked Peeta better after it, so I don't think you'll be switching sides anytime soon. But WEAK? *sigh*

    8 months til #3!

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  12. That was epic!!!
    I'm Team Gale all the way.
    The real men don't PUSH their feelings into someone.

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  13. So funny to stumble on this discussion when I JUST started reading CATCHING FIRE last night!

    But all through HUNGER GAMES, I was Team Gale. He's strong, and "gets" Katniss, and they have *history* together through years of tough times. They just seem to fit better together. Also, Katniss sure seems more worried about her relationship with Gale than with Peeta. Maybe because he's more elusive, harder to get?

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  14. So awesome. I'm totally Team Gale.

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  15. Hilarious! I didn't realize our rants were going to be in print.

    This makes me want to break out color-colded index cards and have an old fashioned debate.

    Oh Heidi, the team-picking does not get easier as the saga continues.

    Team Polygamy may be the sanest option.

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  16. I might switch to team Gale if I get the steamy kisses scenes I want in the 3rd book! Why oh why didn't she have some passion with Gale when he was injured!? Oh, well. Go Peeta!

    Dear Katniss: Dont listen to anyone!! YOU DO NOT have to pick! They're both yours already. Humor us.

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  17. Sorry Heidi, but I was forever team Gale. I agree with the man/boy argument. Peeta is safe, unthreatening but swoon-worthy? I think not.

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  18. Don't have alot of time to comment (children everywhere!), but I just wanted to vote Team Peeta!

    Laura Hartness
    The Calico Critic

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  19. Wait there was another guy in the books? #TeamPeetaisafact

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  20. I just read The Hunger Games this week, and as of right now... i am completely Team Peeta!

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  21. To quote to lovely people that have commented before me...

    Blogger Dannie said...
    PEET-A PEET-A!

    Blogger Liyana said...
    I'm #TeamPeetaIsAFact. :)



    TEAM PEETA!!

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  22. I just can't let Gale win. I'm Team Peeta all the way. Gale is so, so, so, just, UHG! And Peeta is so, so, so, just *sigh*.

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  23. I'm totally TEAM GALE. Gale is Katniss' equal and shares a common history with her. Peeta isn't quite the survivor that either Gale or Katniss are, and while he makes a good friend, the only other good thing he makes is a loaf of bread.

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  25. Peeta. Oh, Peeta, Peeta, Peeta. If you can't tell, I really, really like Peeta. He's so perfect and really cares about Katniss, even if she doesn't want to be with him. Now, that, my friends is love. And I could list all the reasons why I love him so, but I won't becuase that would take too much time. : )

    Not saying that Gale doesn't love Katniss, but we haven't really gotten to know Gale, yet. I kind of hope he shows how much he cares for her in the last book of the series. You know, kind of gives Peeta a run for his money.

    But, for now (and most likely forever) I'm 100% Team Peeta.

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  26. WTF?! Team Peeta all the way!!! I cant even fathom anyone whos Team Gale:P
    Peeta FTW<3

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  27. All of these comments have been fun to read. :) I'm still Team Gale though!!

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  28. **chants**

    Peeta! Peeta! Peeta! Peeta!

    #teampeeta all the way

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  29. Woo--Great post! I'm also torn--I really like both boys. But there's just something about Peeta. He's been supremely unselfish through all this, and willing to sacrifice his life for Katniss. He may have started out as a baker, but he's definitely no wimp. And Gale has his chance and didn't take it. Sooo....

    GO TEAM PEETA! WOOT!

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  30. Great great post! Everyone makes great points but I am not to be swayed! TEAM PEETA all the way! He's so in love with her that you can't help but be in love with him! My hubby is reading now and he loves them too!(he wouldn't admit it but I think he's team Peeta too shh)

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  31. And one more thing -- while that kiss in the woods in CF was nice...that kiss near the end with Peeta was -- well, let's just say, -- I was warm all over reading it!

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  32. I literally just finished Hunger Games an hour ago (trying to write a review now). I must say, I'm currently Team Peeta. I WANT to like Gale more, but I know so little about him. This may change with Catching Fire.
    Everyone makes good arguements.
    I don't know if Peeta and Katniss' relationship can last since it was formed out of necessaity, whereas Gale and Katniss started off as friends and that definitely always helps. But Peeta is so sweet and he steps up when needed.

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  33. Excellent debate! I'm Team Peeta. He bakes, he's artistic, he's totally devoted to Katniss, and he knows how to play the system. I think Collins did an amazing job creating a nice guy character who's not the slightest bit boring.

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  34. Jess: AGREED.
    Also, I have a whole new topic to discuss. I'm so wondering about something.

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  35. Heidi - Email me!! I'm dying to hear what you're mysteriously wondering.

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  36. Despite Katniss's growing feelings for Peeta, I've watched unrequited love too long to side with him. Plus, Gale has comfortable history with her -and- he's a strong character. Give him more screen time!

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  37. Wow! Talk about a heated argument. I have to say that I am 100% Team Peeta. He's sweet, he's caring, he accepts Katniss for who she is and he isn't afraid to love her. Peeta is his own person and he is completely comfortable in his own skin and I love that. He is never afraid to call Katniss out and he is never afraid to express his feelings.

    We haven't really gotten to know Gale enough for me to actually care about him. The third book may give us more Gale, but I doubt it will change my mind on who Katniss belongs with.

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  38. I am shocked to see people whom I know and love on Team Gale...

    I love Peeta! I think it's great that he and Katniss have different skills, and that he can complement her and respects her so much. The guy who doesn't mind that the girl might have more hunting prowess than he does, and who resorts to any means to keep her safe? THAT'S a man.

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  39. How can you not cheer for Peeta when he's loved Katniss from afar his whole life, is willing to sacrifice himself to save her over and over, and puts her needs and happiness before his? Gale is a good guy and I like his commitment to take care of her family, but would he have done that without her reciprocating? Peeta stuck his neck out for her with no expectation or possibility of anything in return. Totally Team Peeta, even more so after CF! Can't wait for book 3!

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  40. GALE. He is a man and he is the only one who really knows Katniss. They have massive chemistry and I get butterflies reading their scenes together. Peeta is just a little boy who has "loved" Katniss his whole life even though he'd never spoken to her before the games. He is wimpy and clingy and weak. Gale is a perfect fit for Katniss, he doesn't let her run away from who she really is whereas Peeta wants to do everything Katniss asks him to do.

    No, Gale and Katniss are my OTP.

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  41. I personally say Gale and if I were an author would go for Gale.Why?Because when writing a book you want to surprise your readers.Writing about Petta for most of the books would make you think Katniss would choose him.The little scenes where Gale is brought into the picture could be clues(you never know) to let you know how the story ends.Yes,you would more than likely make TONS of fans mad,but then the question is,does a true writer write for the pleasure of the fans,or for the pleasure of themselves?Thats just my opinion.

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  42. Princess Victoria HawthroneSeptember 4, 2010 at 12:27 PM

    Okay, I love Peeta, how can I not? If him and I were the last people on earth I SO wouldn't complain! But I'm tired and true TEAM GALE! I prefer my men outdoors bringing home the food, not in the kitchen making flowers out of pink icing.

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  43. team GALE ALL THE WAY! how could you possibly like peeta?! gale is a fricken stud! while peeta just lays in the mud like a fricken pansy! it took katniss a long time to even trust peeta, when her and gale clicked right off the bat. and it's not like gale killed prim on purpose. and it's also kinda pathetic that katniss has to convince peeta in the end that he loved her. even though it was obvious that he hated her! there is no possible way that i could like peeta. like someone before me said, gale hunts and supports his whole entire family on his own and has to work hard all day long! peeta on the other hand, bakes cakes and pastries. tell me, who sounds like the real man right here?

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  44. Gale! I always imagined him too be... Well, the perfect guy for katniss. And preeta is just some blonde guy that gets thrown in the kill people, who has a funny name.

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  45. Team Gale all the way!
    I am totally for Gale. I hate the really obvious desperation of Peeta. I feel the "boy with the bread" scene is played up WAY too much. Gale has kept Katniss's family alive for years, by teaching Katniss how to hunt and set traps. The bread saved her once, Gale saved her for four years...

    Gale and Katniss's relationship was real from the start. Her love (or "friendship") for Gale is totally real and pure. The whole start of Katiniss and Peeta's "love" was totally forced! The only reason she pretended to like him was to survive!Fake relationships never last, and I'm very mad at Suzanne for choosing Peeta. And for exactly that reason I'm not giving good reviews on the Mockingjay book.

    We just started the whole "Team Gale <3 and Team Peeta :/" thing at school. I was the only one out of everyone for Gale! All you true Gale lovers, stand up! Don't let those Peeta lovers sway your common sense. I know I'm gonna get hate posts for this but I really don't care. let them say what they say, and I'll say what i want to. I'm a proud reader of all three books and am reading the series for a second time. yay movie in March 2012!!!!!!!!! GO TEAM GALE!!!!!

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  46. I disagree with one of the posts. Gale did make a move. What else do you call "We could do it, you know... Leave the district. Run off. Live in the woods. You and I, we could make it." Some people should really read the book more closely.

    I'm for Team Gale, even if Peeta and Katniss do get married in the end.

    Adele and RJ had wonderful arguments and points of view. Thanks for making my opinion stronger :)

    This was a very interesting debate, by the way.

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  47. Team Gale forever! Not open for discussion. I felt so bad for him. Why? all the team peeta people ask. Heres why. Team peeta people say:
    Gale missed his chance: He didnt want to ruin the happy gunuine friendship she shared with Katniss, so he kept quiet.
    Gale doesnt agree to anything Katniss says: So you want him to go 'whatever you say, Katniss' every time she speaks an opinion? I dont.
    Just dont know anything about Gale: That's the point. With the velvet tread and soundlessly appearing, he's supposed to come across as mysterious and vaugue, though still present to enjoy a good laugh if he's with Katniss.

    I respect those who choose peeta, but Im just tired of people insulting Gale. Sometimes they are not even trying to insult him; thats just what they thought of him. And this is what i think of him.

    TEAM GALE! TEAM GALE! TEAM GALE!

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  48. Team Gale all the way. I cant help pitying him (though that's not the only reason im siding with him.) I felt (and still feel) a sharp pain in my heart whenever i think of Gale. How he had to sit in watch the lovee of his life fall in love with this unknown boy, as if he and Katniss hadn't even existed. On top of that, you want to tell her you love her, but you're not even sure if you will see her again. As you probably guess, the ending of Mockingjay tore my heart to pieces. I felt decieved. Like everything we (being in Katniss's POV,) had been through with Gale was all set up; All waiting us and leading us onward to the scene of his heart-break. I stay up at night, thinking about how terrible that must feel. And on top of all the heart-break, Katniss didnt even thank him for the great friend he was through-out the years, or how sorry she was, but she just cant stand it with Prim gone. All she did was stare at her feet while Gale's heart broke. At the moment, I hated Katniss. I couldnt help it; Gale was just too important for such a terrible ending. Suzanne Collins is a wonderful author, my favorite by far, but she let me down on this one.

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    1. agreed, it's such an annoying end, why did collins do this to us, i mean shes great, but peeta, over Gale, really? why, it's too preditable. People say it's all because of the bomb, but that didn't have to happen, collins could have written the end better

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  49. Sorry, in the beginning, i was talking as if you were in Gale's shoes. Forgot to mention that part... : }

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  50. TEAM GALE. Even in the end Katniss isnt happy enough with Peeta. She comments saying " I wish Gale would just materilize, the quite way he always does" It took her 15 years to get kids with Peeta, but she still needs Gale. I hope they change that in the movie. Peeta was such a loser in the movie, Katniss needs Gale to survive happily. I don't know why she ended up with Peeta, but it was terrible.

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  51. TEAM PEETA!!!!!!!!!!
    just because hes blond.

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  52. i am on team haymitch.

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  53. PEEETAAA!!! Peeta, peeta, peeta, and if you can't tell, I'm on team Peeta! He's sooo sweet and super adorable! Gale... I think he's snobby, and y'all gale lovers are gonna hate me, but, he had a chance to make a move, but he didn't. He's jealous because he only showed feelings for Katniss when Peeta came into the picture. Plus, Katniss says she'd end up with peeta anyway. And how can you hate peeta?!?! I absototalutely LOVE that guy! So that's my opinion. I conclude:
    PEETA! PEETA! PEETA! I HEART PEEETAAA!!!!!!!!!

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  54. 22 gales 31 peetas
    Personally TEAM PEETA!!! Acctually liked fake for a really long time but I saw the movie and read the books again and definitely team peeta!!!

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  55. True we did not get to see as much Gale as we did in comparison to Peeta, but that never changed my opinion on who I would have picked. Peeta was sweet, although a little less adept to staying alive, and loved Katniss. He was genuine and caring, and I loved him for that. He wasn't all muscle and grit, and trust me, those traits do not make a man a MAN. HOWEVER, I still had more feelings towards Gale. Yes, he hunts, is rugged, and handsome and blah blah blah... but more importantly: he seemed take more initiative in life and fought for a cause. It seemed like he was the only one with the "cahonas" to say "look, the capitol sucks and is oppressing us! This isn't right!" People say he was too angry - Honestly, I'd hate someone more if they decided to just be content in such a violent and oppressive society. Gale stepped up and took charge of his destiny which included bringing down an oppressive government. Peeta's only real concern in life was Katniss. He claims he's followed her and loved her since they were little, but he doesn't even know much about her. Gale knows her better than anyone, and I just think that makes a more geniune relationship. Not only that, but Gale was more than just a character obsessed with Katniss (Peeta's character basically spent most of his time just trying to be with Katniss). Gale loved Katniss, but also knew how important his cause was. He didn't try to force his love on Katniss and didn't let his life revolve soley on Katniss and trying to get her to love him. I think that made Gale more of a desirable man - being loving while also willing to sacrafice to fight for something bigger than himself. I just didn't see as much passion with Peeta and thought he was just going along with the story. I really thought Katniss and Gale should have come together after the war.

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